A Rape Baby Is a Gift From God Rick Santorum

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http://m.guardian.co.britain/earth/2012/january/24/rick-santorum-daughter-ballgame-rape?cat=world&type=articleSo to sumarise this, if either of Santorum'south daughters were raped, he would pretty much deny them the correct to an abortion, the right to cull what happens to their own body, the correct to decide whether they want a child or not.
This is a pretty icky belief, I'm not actually certain if he fifty-fifty believes that there is Whatsoever case in which a woman can accept an abortion.

I guess the topic of the thread will revolve around the issue of denying women abortions, and how moral it is to say to a rape victim (hypothetical or otherwise), that they shouldn't have an aboriton but just to sate your conscience.

My ain views on this is that it is just another instance of the misoygny in the Republican political party and in the ballgame debate; that a adult female MUST Not have an abortion, and she should exist forced to have the kid, regardless if she wants information technology or non, regardless if she objects, she must have it to appease other people.
If he wins, that will prove my worst fears of the American Revolution are true.
I promise freedom of religion is preserved, in this instance.
He won't win. I doubt if he could even get re-elected to the Senate.
This isn't supposed to be a conversation on reality, Murky, but a hypothetical battlefield where we toss our highly evolved ideologies into the field to practice boxing.
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If you assume that God has a plan for all of u.s., then his belief makes perfect sense. The trouble is that supposition. At least he'd try to comfort and counsel his daughter to do the "right" thing instead of sternly forbidding information technology.
I'grand just saying the guy'south stupid, non heartless.
It's non misogyny if the baby is female.
"Bourgeois Christian hates woman, proud of information technology"? Well, well, I never.
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To a belief system steeped in paternalism it makes perfect sense.
Most conservative Christians don't hate women. In fact, Mormons similar women so much that one wife sometimes isn't enough!
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I think this should be red diamonded, every bit it is a sensitive topic and is potentially prejudicial against such individuals (although that term is literal).
Sensationalism bated, the topic actually is but "should women have the right to make up one's mind?". Obviously Santorum chose to answer that question in a sensationalist way, since obviously he is a politician on the trail, lagging, and needs to distinquish himself from the competition if he is to have any run a risk of winning. The sensationalist mode of approaching the topic is regrettable, really.

I'm really non surprised that Santorum, a devout Catholic, would have fabricated the response that he did.
Yes, he would deny them an abortion. Equally to the right to abortion you should Norma McCorvey how she feels about Roe v. Wade. now.
He believes under no circumstance that the right to life of the unborn may exist infringed as all people have a right to life, freedom and the pursuit of happiness from formulation. Now if simply he'd come up around to development.

An abortion doesn't take away the horrible violation of the adult female's torso, information technology doesn't make her in pregnant.

They also assert that a woman must not kill her born children
emzie wicked witch of the N

If you honestly believe that conception = life, and so this is the only opinion i can logically take without consenting to murder.
Ane of my pet peeves is when people against ballgame say, "except in the case of rape or incest" -- the hell does that thing if yous are against abortion otherwise?
If , and it'due south a huge if , he actually had this bespeak of view from a moral standpoint , I may have a smidgen of sympathy for his position ( life begins at formulation therefore abortion is murder.....certainly non my view but not outrageous or unarguable) . But I suspect it's far more likely that his stand is a calculated political decision which makes it ane.stupid ii. odious .
Scientifically, that IS when a new human organism is created. At what point personhood begins is a unlike story.
He does 100% genuinely believe this
What day exactly does personhood begin, when does it go a person? If we tin not evidence a engagement then the only logical thing to prevent the killing of someone is to prepare it to formulation
emzie wicked witch of the North

And cancer is life too. Clearly I'm talking about a metaphysical concept here, not a text book definition of cells metabolizing and dividing.Ah, I see you're one of those liberal Catholics who believes in condom usage.
The joining of a sperm and egg creates a unique organism.
emzie wicked witch of the North

For what information technology's worth, I opened a thread on this a few years ago.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=340776

I much prefer the pro-lifers who are confronting ballgame in all cases (except maybe life of mother) since their stance is less about, every bit Arwon would say, slut shaming.
Well he is proverb that all life is precious, even if the child was conceived in a situation that should not have occurred. OF class with that opinion Nosotros Detest WOMEN.
http://world wide web.righttoliferoch.org/nforgotten.htm

http://www.rebeccakiessling.com/alphabetize.html

Some sites talking about people who were born every bit a result of their mother's being raped. WE should not guess a kid by how they were conceived, but by how they live their life.
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Exactly. The problem is, with that line of reasoning you could besides excuse the rapist himself. He was but an instrument of God, wasn't he?
Well, yes, when your bounds supercede biology with cabalistic majicks, you're going to come to some strange conclusions. But consistency is not traditionally regarded every bit a sufficient defence of otherwise absurd views.How so? If you tin can say that at bespeak X a foetus is non-sentient, and at point Y a foetus is sentient, but don't know when the transition happens, and then y'all can at the very most argue for drawing the line at point X. Drawing information technology before signal Ten isn't "logic", it'due south contrived and nonsensical.